Fencing Questions

March 20, 2010

Wow, it is getting into the season, business is picking up and I am really enjoying being outside.  It is for all these reasons that I simply didn’t make it back to my computer for a couple more Friday afternoon posts.  My apologies.

I am looking for a little help that I am wondering if one of you might be able to provide.  My husband and I are working towards converting our 6 acres into far more productive and beautiful land.  To this end we need to add some fencing and upgrade some others.  I have few questions…my first question is this….you may remember a month or so ago a post I made about split rail fences.  Well we decided on our fence, spec’d it and went to place an order from American Timber and Steel.  Why did I go with them?  Hands down the best product for the cheapest price.  Fellow New Englanders are accustomed to paying in the range of $15- 18 for an 11′ rails, line posts, and corner posts.  I can order from American Timber and Steel and the price range for all the parts is in the $5-9 range.  But here is my dilemma — shipping.  My order isn’t a full truck load so I am paying almost double my materials (though still cheaper than other local options) in shipping.  Part of me says suck it up – you are shipping materials from Ohio and it is still the most economical option – but the other part of me just can’t justify the shipping expense.  ATS is willing to try and combine shipping but no one has an order coming this way…. Are you in need of some great fencing in New England?  Check out American Timber and Steel — and see if they can help you out — and if you decide to go with them…can you let me know so we can try and combine shipping on our orders?

Second question…..around here all the orchards have in the last few years erected deer fences that are easily over 10 ft tall.  They are not ugly but the thought of a 10′ cage around my property seems a little sad to me.  I saw this at Martha Stewart yesterday and I am wondering if anyone has ever had this type of double boundary fence set up for deer? Here are my questions….does it really work?  do you ever get deer stuck in the middle? and finally — what is the distance between the two lines?  If you know a little something about this….please share I am very curious.  Thanks!!

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  1. Plant Paradise Country Gardens is located in the rural countryside of Ontario and therefore deer roam all over. We do not have any fencing to protect the plants and for four years we have used the product “Plantskydd” to protect the plants and gardens from the ravaging deer. Lightly sprayed on plants as they are emerging the in the spring and on bloom buds when the temperature is above zero degrees Celsius. We have thousands of tulips and many other tasty delights and have never experienced any damage from deer when we have used this product. We also use it in the fall for winter protection of shrubs and trees. It lasts for four months and it does not need to be re-applied after a rainfall. Plantskydd is made in the USA and is an OMRI certified product.

  2. S@sha says:

    That’s an interesting fence– sort of like an at grade ha-ha? I’m assuming that the deer get stuck in the middle if they decide to jump it? Could you achieve the same thing with a relatively low fence and a moderate trench on one side?

  3. agneta says:

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  4. michelle d. says:

    I have seen this type of fence in action in heavily populated deer country in Northern California and it worked beautifully.
    The spacing between the double fence was 4 feet.
    The author of The Book of Salvias, Betsy Clebsch, has this fence at her property .
    She may have written about it in one of her books. Maybe a google search will bring up something about it.

  5. michelle d. says:

    her is a link and a correction. the spacing is 5 feet between fencing.

    When I was a horticultural internist at Filoli in Woodside CA I lived with Mrs. Clebsch.
    Her property is in the middle of heaven on earth , and every wild rabbit, hawk, deer and bob cat could be found on her property.
    She employed this double fence and it worked wonderfully.
    Her garden is a work of art and love.

  6. nandina says:

    I will second michelle’s comments as I have helped numerous customers with this type of fencing. Have never heard of deer getting caught in the middle between the two fences. Very often we would grow/espalier dwarf fruit trees on the inside of the inside fence and vegetable garden on the rest. This allows double duty for expensive fencing.

  7. Sheila H says:

    I guess I’m not understanding the purpose of double fencing. I personally think that it is unnecessary expense. If the first fence is done high enough, it should do the job of preventing the deer jumping over.

  8. Benner’s Gardens is a company specializing in deer fencing. It is a family owned and operated national mail order deer fence business with headquarters located in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. They have many different products that would help deter deer from entering your property. Benner’s Deer Fencing is a high-strength, wire fence-like mesh (1.75 inch) material constructed of UV stable black polypropylene plastic. This deer fence comes in rolls that come in a variety of heights and lengths, and it is cost-effective, easy to install, and provides long-term deer protection without changing the appearance of the property. Also, many of the rolls come with free shipping.

    If you are interested in their products, check out
    Or, For more information feel free to call: 1-800-BIG-DEER (244-3337)

  9. Raymond says:

    “I wouldn’t want a huge fence around my property either. Fences can be eyesores. With repellents, you can keep the deer away without messing up your yard’s look. I’m using havahart’s deer off and it works great. It repels by using taste and smell that deer hate. Other brands only target one sense. I can’t smell it though once it dries.
    Here’s the repellent I use:

  10. Doug says:

    Some landowners are apprehensive at first about fencing an area for deer and wildlife exclusion, thinking it wont work or it will look bad. There are poly fence materials available in 600, 700 and 900+lbs of breaking strength as well as steel core metal coated 1″ opening mesh – both of which disappear from a few feet away in a treeline. Posts are typically the most visible part of any fence along with access gates. There are many pictures and examples on our websites if you’d like to take a look. and – As we primarily install this type of fencing, we hear about it when most customers love it. Sometimes neighbors even see it and want to enclose their yards as well. Sometimes it’s not necessarily to prevent deer from eating plants, but inhibit the deer ticks from getting in their yard. Anyway, our site listing our installation service is as well if anyone is interested or call 860 921 7900. Thanks

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